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EP 538: Admiral James Stavridis and Novelist Elliott Ackerman

Former commander of NATO Admiral James Stavridis and decorated Marine and novelist Elliott Ackerman envision how a naval clash between the US and China in the South China Sea could lead to World War III in their disturbingly plausible work of speculative fiction titled 2034: A Novel of the Next World War. They discuss how they came together on this project and the power of fiction to draw attention to real world issues and potential areas of crisis. Admiral Stavridis talks about the China’s increasingly aggressive moves in the South China Sea and how tensions in this region could potential impact 30% of the world’s shipping. He also reveals how the pandemic is altering the global balance of power, and Elliott lays out how America’s political divisions may signal the end of the two party system.

Order Stavridis and Ackerman's new book 2034: A Novel of the Next World War on Amazon, Audible, or wherever books are sold. Follow Elliott Ackerman at and on Twitter at @elliottackerman. Follow James Stavridis at and on twitter @stavrisj. Kickass News is launching a brand new podcast network called Airwave in May, and we need your help fund our production slate of all new podcasts for 2021. Please donate to this exciting new venture at


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