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EP 151: Former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on T.P.P., Pacific Rim Security, China, & Th

Kevin Rudd served twice as Australian Prime Minister as well as Foreign Minister and is currently the President of The Asia Society Policy Institute.

He offers his perspective on the strangely confrontational phone conversation between President Donald Trump and Mr. Rudd’s successor as Prime Minister Malcomb Turnbull. He also discusses Trump’s exit from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, what this means for the other partner nations including Australia, and what a new Pacific trade bloc with China might look like. We talk about Trump’s Florida holiday with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, his sudden embrace of the "One China Policy," and a wide range of security issues from a Nuclear North Korea to China’s man-made islands in the South China Sea. Plus how to throw a boomerang.

To learn more about The Asia Society, visit You can visit Kevin Rudd’s website at and follow him on Twitter at @MrKRudd.

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