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EP 175: Governor John Kasich/Dr. Richard Haass

It's a double bill today w/ Ohio Governor John Kasich and Dr. Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations. In Part 1, Governor John Kasich discusses his book Two Paths: America United or Divided, the contentious 2016 GOP primary, and how to heal the country. He talks about valuing truth in the age of alternative facts, he shares why he’s opposed to the current version of the Republican healthcare bill, and why he’s tired some in his own party telling him to shut up about it. Governor Kasich also discuss how the Trump campaign approached his team about putting him on the ticket and why he’s more interested in swimming than running for President these days.

In Part 2, Dr. Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, talks about his book A World in Disarray: American Foreign Policy and the Crisis of the Old Order. He says the old world order is poorly equipped to address the crises of the 21st Century so he’s calling for a 2.0 version of world order that takes into account non-state actors and our increasing interconnectedness. We also discuss Russia, the Syria crisis, North Korea’s nuclear ambitions, and “Twitter diplomacy.”

Order Two Paths: America United or Divided and A World in Disarray: American Foreign Policy and the Crisis of the Old Order on Amazon or download the audiobook for free with a special trial offer from Audible at Follow Governor John Kasich on Twitter at @JohnKasich or at Follow Dr. Richard Haass on Twitter at @RichardHaass and learn more about the Council on Foreign Relations at

Special thanks to the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum for hosting my interview with Governor John Kasich, and thank you to the Milken Institute for hosting my interview with Dr. Richard Haass during their 2017 Global Conference.

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